Anyone ever do any hand splicing? I have recently got into it and am quickly becoming an addict.

Ive even joined a group on facebook. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gi ... 2681823687

I need to knock it on the head... its getting worse than my gear lust.

Hi Ben,
There are a several avid splicers who haunt Canopy Chatter, right now they're more haunting than present. Nick Araya who's in the UK Splicing facebook group stops by Canopy Chatter once in a while, I sent you a message about it on facebook.
-moss

welcome, Ben! There are several of us here and we can all help.

What are you splicing these days?

love
nick

Wow, real late reply. I only just saw this. So far I have spliced 16strand yale xtc, Blaze, 10mm sirius, and some other friction cords like marlow double braid, yale silverstreak etc. Not had any trouble yet with any of them although I haven't done any used 16strand yet!

Not done any locking brummel splices yet.. I wouldn't want to mess it up and waste a lovely length of beeline. Need to get me some tenex!

Here is one I did today for double end lanyarding.

a couple more that i did recently

Nice looking work man. I really wish we had those cool looking ropes over here. I have been putting off trying 16 strand XTC for a while. Nick gave me some hope and a bit of encouragement to try, but I still have not tried yet. Maybe next week.

Have you done 3 strand yet? There is something that I really like about it.... just old school I guess.



Here is a splice gone wrong?!?

Haha yea three strand is fun. That double braid looks pretty messed up! I used the really cheap boating double braids until I had it down. Stitching the crossover a bit helps.

Do the 16strand! It isn't hard.. Just requires 5minutes thought and 20 minutes brute force! The first one I did with coat hanger wire and it was HARD! A piano wire fid helps a lot! I may get some steel rings and make a new cambium saver next.

I heard there is a way to splice a 16 strand e2e where you remove the core completely and use the cover as a new core..

Hopefully Nick can shed some light on this..

Hunabku and Oak have been doing this with 8mm Beeline, I think the cover is 24-strand, not sure exactly, it's definitely not 16-strand. Check with Oak on this but I believe the splice halved the rated strength of the cord (8000 lb. as stated by Yale), so it's not ideal compared to a buried core splice but still decent for an e2e where the splices are sharing the load. That's a similar strength loss as when using knots to terminate the e2e. They used a Brummel with the tails overlapping and buried the full length of the hitch cord. Advantage to the method from my experience climbing on the e2e is the cord is consistently supple right up to the splice compared to a traditional bury which is very stiff after the splice. The cord diameter and firm feel is also consistent throughout the length of the e2e.

I'm not a splicer so all of my comments are subjective, technical details recalled from memory and probably technically inaccurate.
-AJ

I didn't get the details, but the last time I talked to Hunabku about this type of splice (BeeLine - cover only), he said they found some problems with it. I forget what they were, seems like the BeeLine colapses and flattens or something like that. I'll give him a call tonight and see if I can get some more details.

saw this posted on the buzz. worth a read for anyone climbing on spliced terminations. outlines a few simple ways of checking your splices

http://www.treeservicesmagazine.com/article-6886.aspx

A few recent pics of some Tachyon I spliced according the the exact NE instructions. Nightmare splice

Ben,

Nice splicing! I'm just starting out, mostly splicing 12 strand hollow braid right now and some 3 strand. It is addictive! climbed for the first time yesterday on a self spliced eye n eye ice tail. Took it nice and slow inspecting the hitch about every 5 feet (i was paranoid about it). but it held nicely and performed great!

I don't have the confedence to do a double braid yet it just looks intimidating!

If you follow the instructions exactly, take your time and check the splice against the instructions at each step it is very hard to get it wrong. If you can complete the splice bury until the marks line up you are onto a winner. With the double braids try stitching the crossover a bit so it holds together better as you perform the bury. And keep tension on the eye as you bury.. stops slack building up in the core that the cover is buried in.. practice on some cheap double braid from a boat shop.

Here is my attempt at the pulley saver type thing.. Isn't anyone else going to play?

Ben,

I'll try to get some of my splices up tomorrow, Just finished my first 8mm beeline splice last night. It turned out ok, I put too much cover on so it is a little bunched up but not to bad. Where I whip stitched the cover on the core it frayed a bit also so it looks uugglllyyy. I never realized how fragile the core of bee-line is, one wrong move and everything wants to picl apart.

I also did an ice eye and eye last night that i'm very happy with.