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 SHOW OFF THOSE LANYARDS! 
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Post SHOW OFF THOSE LANYARDS!
Alright everybody, Lets see what you use. A picture speaks a thousand words!

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Alright, this is not the best pic, but you can kind of see it. It is the same setup that I currently use, just different rope. I now use 25ft of KMIII, thanks to Tom D, with a snap on one end, and the OG knot as the friction hitch. If you want to see the OG, you will have to search this site for the thread titled "I just invented the best knot" or something like that. There are pics on that thread.

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Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:54 am
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Post Show us your ladyard!
Well you got me started on this pictures sharing story here we go:
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Tengu Saddle next to 8 mm lanyard next to a "Monkey Tail" from New Tribe ( few people has one of those).
Next a prussic of the same material and finally a pre-tied foot loop with that fancy knot posted on New tribe ( triple crown something).....

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Post Show us your ladyard!
The same set up on actually installed on a couple of saddles
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I have not actually used the red color one on an actual climb but I do not see why it would not work. I rather have the larger diameter one made out of "Sportline" .

I have used the "Monkey tail" (posted on the previous post) on climbs when I started climbing and it is definitely a pita to adjust even with your two free hands. Not a good system.

I like the one Moss uses ( designed) because it is easy to adjust with one hand and does not require any special additional tools.

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Post Re: Show us your ladyard!
Oldtimer wrote:
Tengu Saddle next to 8 mm lanyard next to a "Monkey Tail" from New Tribe ( few people has one of those)...


I guess I've been mistakenly thinking that a "monkey tail" was a lanyard rigged to cinch. I would have guessed that the dark lanyard was a "buckstrap." Are those two terms synonyms?


Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:04 pm
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Post Lanyard or Buckstrap????
"Monkey Tail That is what New Tribe calls them. They may be a "buckstrap" who knows. One of the Professional Arborists (Tom) may be able to shine some light on the correct terminology.

Here is a link to their web site.
http://www.newtribe.com/catalog/index.p ... edf5cce81e

Also search Treebuzz on their Terminology and Definitions page for both terms and see what they call those.

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After reading emr post I think these are called a pole strap in the arborist community. I speculate that New Tribe was getting creative withe the name of their product to make it more attractive to new Rec climbers. :roll:

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Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:39 pm
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I am an arborist and while in college I worked in the utility industry. What you are calling a monkey tail, we called a pole strap.

http://wesspur.com/images/product/4138_01_500.gif

And this is what we have always called a buckstrap.

http://wesspur.com/images/product/691016_01_500.gif


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Excellent clarification! Thank you! I can see why I confuse the two.

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Post The long and the short of it
Here's my short lanyard on the left, 15 ft., and my long lanyard on the right, 60 ft. I have a couple of different lengths that I use for the long lanyard so it's always configured on the spot depending on the climb etc., I tie the hitch when I attach the lanyard to my harness. For this climb I'd intended to bring a 40 ft. length of rope, grabbed the wrong one. I typically use the 60 ft. "lanyard" as a stand-alone system for minimal climbs.

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Post Home made lanyard
Ok ya'll. I just made a lanyard out of my old severly damaged rope, but may have made it too long. My lanyard is prolly about 30ft long, and that's after tieing a figure 8 on a bite at one end. I'm clipping a biner into the 8 then to the right side D ring on my harness. The other end will be running through my left handed CMI UnltrAscender, which is clipped "upside down for lack of a better phrase" to a biner on the left side D ring on my harness. As I'm going up of course the lanyard will be clipped completely to my left side. The biner on the 8 will be tossed over the branch I want, then clipped to my right side. I will then be able to pull the slack through the scender until as tight as needed. Sorry, not picture of this set up as of yet. Do I need all that rope, or can I shorten it and still have plenty of functonality, or should I make a second shorter lanyard - I still have plenty of rope to use if need be. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

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Moss, I like that you've rigged the House Sleeves on your lanyards. I tend to climb on mine a lot when I use it because I like to limbwalk and even actually CLIMB on occasion. I'm going to go out and rig my lanyard with my two old sleeves if I can actually find them. Geez, my pack is going to weigh 60 pounds now.

My lanyard is BWIII static line with three prussics on it, my choice of cordage is questionable, I need to change it soon. The center prussic is a three wrap with blue cord, and the two outside ones are two wrap in red. When I get a harness with side d's I'm going to add some captured eye 'biners or snaps to simplify use. There is a stopper knot at either end of the lanyard which is something like 25' long. While limb walking with this setup I can loop my destination point and my origination point and work my way over like a shuttle in an old pull string curtain rod, if anyone remembers those. When advancing my line I actually use both ends as well, particularly when I don't have enough foot room for three points of contact. I can spread the lanyards out and put my feet together in one spot and have a stable position from which to throw.

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Post Re: The long and the short of it
moss wrote:
Here's my short lanyard on the left, 15 ft...

Moss - your lanyard on the left looks interesting. Can you elaborate on it (how you have it tied up)? Is that a buntline hitch on the right biner? What do you call the knot setup on the left biner? I'm assuming it is a friction hitch that allows you to adjust the length of the lanyard. Then it looks like it is daisy chained which you probably hook to your harness, right? Rather ingenious setup. Does the accessory cord being doubled make it stronger? Can't quite tell but it looks like there is another metal object around the top of the left biner between the two accessory cord ties. What is that? I want to start carrying a lanyard worthy of full support.


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Post Re: The long and the short of it
Bama wrote:
Moss - your lanyard on the left looks interesting. Can you elaborate on it (how you have it tied up)? Is that a buntline hitch on the right biner? What do you call the knot setup on the left biner? I'm assuming it is a friction hitch that allows you to adjust the length of the lanyard. Then it looks like it is daisy chained which you probably hook to your harness, right? Rather ingenious setup. Does the accessory cord being doubled make it stronger? Can't quite tell but it looks like there is another metal object around the top of the left biner between the two accessory cord ties. What is that? I want to start carrying a lanyard worthy of full support.


It's based on the brilliant J~Bird adjustable lanyard circa 2005 in the articles section, see illustration #4 for the basic lanyard setup.

The knot capturing the biner is a Double Overhand Noose or Scaffold Knot (don't like that name too much, never use it). On my rig the hitch that makes it adjustable is tied with 8mm Beeline prussik cord. The micro pulley allows the lanyard to be tightened up one-handed (comes in handy every climb) and can be repurposed for a MA rescue pick-off as J~Bird explained in the Lanyard Project article. The hitch is a variation of the VT called the XT, examples here. I use the XT for my lanyard and main climbing system. It's a smooth running and quick grabbing hitch, length has to be tuned to your lanyard rope diameter, don't get an expensive pre-fab spliced split tail, the length will be wrong.

Photo details for an earlier version, uses a different hitch but the overall lanyard configuration is the same.

But.... before you get seduced by nifty gadgetry, learn the Third Rope Lanyard! You may find that you don't want a separate lanyard. You may find a rogue or two willing to speak on that subject, or search the forum and find all that's been said on the third rope magic tool.
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Post Re: The long and the short of it
moss wrote:
But.... before you get seduced by nifty gadgetry, learn the Third Rope Lanyard! You may find that you don't want a separate lanyard. You may find a rogue or two willing to speak on that subject, or search the forum and find all that's been said on the third rope magic tool.

Argh... always carry a spare split-tail.


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Post Re: The long and the short of it
DaveJ wrote:
Argh... always carry a spare split-tail.


If you're a split tail climber. The split tail has become the source of fixation for many a beginner climber. I climbed two+ years trad/Blake's before finding my own reason to integrate a split tail into my system. Most likely a good subject for a different thread, the split tail is a broad subject with many twist and turns. The short answer is that a split tail speeds up repitching but otherwise you can do anything you need to do in a tree in any DRT climbing situation with a clean and simple trad/Blake's system.
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